Shotgun> ""Even the point about giving his only begotton son, something a loving father would not require in my books, a painful agonizing death to repay a debt to himself....I'd cancel out the debt instead.""
Exactly !!! why i questioned the entire 'ransom doctrine' from that time i was a child who could comprehend the Christian dogma.If I ever reconcile Christianity and get 'saved' It will be because I have seen profound nefarious evildom.The evil seems to be centralized ( Satan of the Christian diety structure ?) if so,,,,the inverse must be true and good is God?
One thing I am certain of; Jesus Christ did not return to power in 1914.